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Please see the following example, I think the ministers are quite specific, not all ministers, just those from the remaining 27 EU countries. So why there is no 'the' preceded?
- Ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
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Please see the following example, I think the ministers are quite specific, not all ministers, just those from the remaining 27 EU countries. So why there is no 'the' preceded?
- Ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
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The PP "from 27 EU Countries" makes it clear which ministers met, so there is no need to mark the NP as definite by adding "the".
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Please see the following example, I think the ministers are quite specific, not all ministers, just those from the remaining 27 EU countries. So why there is no 'the' preceded?
- Ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
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Please see the following example, I think the ministers are quite specific, not all ministers, just those from the remaining 27 EU countries. So why there is no 'the' preceded?
- Ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
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The PP "from 27 EU Countries" makes it clear which ministers met, so there is no need to mark the NP as definite by adding "the".
– BillJ
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The PP "from 27 EU Countries" makes it clear which ministers met, so there is no need to mark the NP as definite by adding "the".
– BillJ
2 days ago
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The PP "from 27 EU Countries" makes it clear which ministers met, so there is no need to mark the NP as definite by adding "the".
– BillJ
2 days ago
The PP "from 27 EU Countries" makes it clear which ministers met, so there is no need to mark the NP as definite by adding "the".
– BillJ
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If one were to include the article before ministers, it would change the meaning of the sentence:
The ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
This would mean that either all ministers from those countries were present, or it may imply that there is only one minister per country.
Since every country has a number of ministers, some of whom have nothing to do with the EU or Brexit, it makes no sense that all minsters from all those countries would meet.
However, one country may send their minister of foreign affairs, where another country may send their prime minister, and some countries may send more than one minister.
Therefore
Ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
Is an accurate description of what happened: a bunch of people met, and they all hold cabinet positions in one of the 27 remaining EU countries.
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Thanks, Oerkelens. That's a good explanation.
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When we add "s" for plurals to some nouns without " the" , the meaning and impact of it may be changed to the other. For example: The people means men : whereas if we use peoples instead of the people , the meaning is changed as " countries "
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2 Answers
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If one were to include the article before ministers, it would change the meaning of the sentence:
The ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
This would mean that either all ministers from those countries were present, or it may imply that there is only one minister per country.
Since every country has a number of ministers, some of whom have nothing to do with the EU or Brexit, it makes no sense that all minsters from all those countries would meet.
However, one country may send their minister of foreign affairs, where another country may send their prime minister, and some countries may send more than one minister.
Therefore
Ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
Is an accurate description of what happened: a bunch of people met, and they all hold cabinet positions in one of the 27 remaining EU countries.
answered 2 days ago
oerkelens
33.6k792122
Thanks, Oerkelens. That's a good explanation.
– Saint Paul
2 days ago
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If one were to include the article before ministers, it would change the meaning of the sentence:
The ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
This would mean that either all ministers from those countries were present, or it may imply that there is only one minister per country.
Since every country has a number of ministers, some of whom have nothing to do with the EU or Brexit, it makes no sense that all minsters from all those countries would meet.
However, one country may send their minister of foreign affairs, where another country may send their prime minister, and some countries may send more than one minister.
Therefore
Ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
Is an accurate description of what happened: a bunch of people met, and they all hold cabinet positions in one of the 27 remaining EU countries.
answered 2 days ago
oerkelens
33.6k792122
Thanks, Oerkelens. That's a good explanation.
– Saint Paul
2 days ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
If one were to include the article before ministers, it would change the meaning of the sentence:
The ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
This would mean that either all ministers from those countries were present, or it may imply that there is only one minister per country.
Since every country has a number of ministers, some of whom have nothing to do with the EU or Brexit, it makes no sense that all minsters from all those countries would meet.
However, one country may send their minister of foreign affairs, where another country may send their prime minister, and some countries may send more than one minister.
Therefore
Ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
Is an accurate description of what happened: a bunch of people met, and they all hold cabinet positions in one of the 27 remaining EU countries.
answered 2 days ago
oerkelens
33.6k792122
If one were to include the article before ministers, it would change the meaning of the sentence:
The ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
This would mean that either all ministers from those countries were present, or it may imply that there is only one minister per country.
Since every country has a number of ministers, some of whom have nothing to do with the EU or Brexit, it makes no sense that all minsters from all those countries would meet.
However, one country may send their minister of foreign affairs, where another country may send their prime minister, and some countries may send more than one minister.
Therefore
Ministers from the remaining 27 EU countries have met in Brussels
ahead of the deal being finalised on Sunday.
Is an accurate description of what happened: a bunch of people met, and they all hold cabinet positions in one of the 27 remaining EU countries.
answered 2 days ago
oerkelens
33.6k792122
answered 2 days ago
oerkelens
33.6k792122
answered 2 days ago
oerkelens
33.6k792122
answered 2 days ago
oerkelens
33.6k792122
33.6k792122
Thanks, Oerkelens. That's a good explanation.
– Saint Paul
2 days ago
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Thanks, Oerkelens. That's a good explanation.
– Saint Paul
2 days ago
Thanks, Oerkelens. That's a good explanation.
– Saint Paul
2 days ago
Thanks, Oerkelens. That's a good explanation.
– Saint Paul
2 days ago
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When we add "s" for plurals to some nouns without " the" , the meaning and impact of it may be changed to the other. For example: The people means men : whereas if we use peoples instead of the people , the meaning is changed as " countries "
answered 2 days ago
RC REDDY
151
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up vote
-2
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When we add "s" for plurals to some nouns without " the" , the meaning and impact of it may be changed to the other. For example: The people means men : whereas if we use peoples instead of the people , the meaning is changed as " countries "
answered 2 days ago
RC REDDY
151
add a comment |
up vote
-2
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up vote
-2
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When we add "s" for plurals to some nouns without " the" , the meaning and impact of it may be changed to the other. For example: The people means men : whereas if we use peoples instead of the people , the meaning is changed as " countries "
answered 2 days ago
RC REDDY
151
When we add "s" for plurals to some nouns without " the" , the meaning and impact of it may be changed to the other. For example: The people means men : whereas if we use peoples instead of the people , the meaning is changed as " countries "
answered 2 days ago
RC REDDY
151
answered 2 days ago
RC REDDY
151
answered 2 days ago
RC REDDY
151
answered 2 days ago
RC REDDY
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The PP "from 27 EU Countries" makes it clear which ministers met, so there is no need to mark the NP as definite by adding "the".
– BillJ
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