Is there a technical term for insideout-ness?
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So the technical term for right or left handedness is chirality.
The technical term for evenness or oddness is parity.
Is there a similar term for inside-out-ness vs right-side-out-ness?
EDIT:
I wish to speak of 2 objects. They have no interesting features except that each could be considered 'inside-out' relative to the other. Except there is no 'right' side. I suppose I could arbitrarily designate one side as Right and the other as In, but there are reasons to avoid doing so.
"Object 1 and object 2 differ only in their _."
I tried both chirality and parity but neither fit.
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asked Sep 7 '11 at 15:57
Matthew ScoutenMatthew Scouten
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So the technical term for right or left handedness is chirality.
The technical term for evenness or oddness is parity.
Is there a similar term for inside-out-ness vs right-side-out-ness?
EDIT:
I wish to speak of 2 objects. They have no interesting features except that each could be considered 'inside-out' relative to the other. Except there is no 'right' side. I suppose I could arbitrarily designate one side as Right and the other as In, but there are reasons to avoid doing so.
"Object 1 and object 2 differ only in their _."
I tried both chirality and parity but neither fit.
single-word-requests terminology hypernyms
asked Sep 7 '11 at 15:57
Matthew ScoutenMatthew Scouten
1765
2
The term is inside-outness. You already have it. Also, chirality is a chemistry-specific term, so I think it is somewhat misleading to call it technical.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:29
2
Oops - just realised OP wants a word to describe the existence of a distinction between "normal" and "everted". I can't cancel the vote to close, but I can say there are so few real-world referents it would stagger me if there's even a specialised scientific term for it. Bear in mind particle physicists co-opted colour and spin for similar contexts, where the original meanings are unrelated to the scientific ones. But those scientific differences are [probably] real, whereas OP's one probably isn't.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:30
1
@z7sg Ѫ: If "inside-outness" were ever used, I'm sure most people would take it to mean "eversion". I can't imagine a context where it would mean "the distinction between whether a thing is normal or everted". Would you seriously say "Can you check the inside-outness of my freshly-laundered socks", for example?
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:37
1
@FumbleFingers It gets a few hundred hits on google books. I might say that. I wouldn't say "Can you check whether my socks are everted?" because it's unlikely someone will know what that word means, fine word though it is.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:41
3
@z7sg Ѫ: chirality is also used in math and physics with similar meaning.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:28
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So the technical term for right or left handedness is chirality.
The technical term for evenness or oddness is parity.
Is there a similar term for inside-out-ness vs right-side-out-ness?
EDIT:
I wish to speak of 2 objects. They have no interesting features except that each could be considered 'inside-out' relative to the other. Except there is no 'right' side. I suppose I could arbitrarily designate one side as Right and the other as In, but there are reasons to avoid doing so.
"Object 1 and object 2 differ only in their _."
I tried both chirality and parity but neither fit.
single-word-requests terminology hypernyms
asked Sep 7 '11 at 15:57
Matthew ScoutenMatthew Scouten
1765
So the technical term for right or left handedness is chirality.
The technical term for evenness or oddness is parity.
Is there a similar term for inside-out-ness vs right-side-out-ness?
EDIT:
I wish to speak of 2 objects. They have no interesting features except that each could be considered 'inside-out' relative to the other. Except there is no 'right' side. I suppose I could arbitrarily designate one side as Right and the other as In, but there are reasons to avoid doing so.
"Object 1 and object 2 differ only in their _."
I tried both chirality and parity but neither fit.
single-word-requests terminology hypernyms
single-word-requests terminology hypernyms
asked Sep 7 '11 at 15:57
Matthew ScoutenMatthew Scouten
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asked Sep 7 '11 at 15:57
Matthew ScoutenMatthew Scouten
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edited Sep 12 '11 at 22:12
Matthew Scouten
asked Sep 7 '11 at 15:57
Matthew ScoutenMatthew Scouten
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asked Sep 7 '11 at 15:57
Matthew ScoutenMatthew Scouten
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asked Sep 7 '11 at 15:57
Matthew ScoutenMatthew Scouten
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The term is inside-outness. You already have it. Also, chirality is a chemistry-specific term, so I think it is somewhat misleading to call it technical.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:29
2
Oops - just realised OP wants a word to describe the existence of a distinction between "normal" and "everted". I can't cancel the vote to close, but I can say there are so few real-world referents it would stagger me if there's even a specialised scientific term for it. Bear in mind particle physicists co-opted colour and spin for similar contexts, where the original meanings are unrelated to the scientific ones. But those scientific differences are [probably] real, whereas OP's one probably isn't.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:30
1
@z7sg Ѫ: If "inside-outness" were ever used, I'm sure most people would take it to mean "eversion". I can't imagine a context where it would mean "the distinction between whether a thing is normal or everted". Would you seriously say "Can you check the inside-outness of my freshly-laundered socks", for example?
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:37
1
@FumbleFingers It gets a few hundred hits on google books. I might say that. I wouldn't say "Can you check whether my socks are everted?" because it's unlikely someone will know what that word means, fine word though it is.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:41
3
@z7sg Ѫ: chirality is also used in math and physics with similar meaning.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:28
|
show 8 more comments
2
The term is inside-outness. You already have it. Also, chirality is a chemistry-specific term, so I think it is somewhat misleading to call it technical.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:29
2
Oops - just realised OP wants a word to describe the existence of a distinction between "normal" and "everted". I can't cancel the vote to close, but I can say there are so few real-world referents it would stagger me if there's even a specialised scientific term for it. Bear in mind particle physicists co-opted colour and spin for similar contexts, where the original meanings are unrelated to the scientific ones. But those scientific differences are [probably] real, whereas OP's one probably isn't.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:30
1
@z7sg Ѫ: If "inside-outness" were ever used, I'm sure most people would take it to mean "eversion". I can't imagine a context where it would mean "the distinction between whether a thing is normal or everted". Would you seriously say "Can you check the inside-outness of my freshly-laundered socks", for example?
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:37
1
@FumbleFingers It gets a few hundred hits on google books. I might say that. I wouldn't say "Can you check whether my socks are everted?" because it's unlikely someone will know what that word means, fine word though it is.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:41
3
@z7sg Ѫ: chirality is also used in math and physics with similar meaning.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:28
2
2
The term is inside-outness. You already have it. Also, chirality is a chemistry-specific term, so I think it is somewhat misleading to call it technical.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:29
The term is inside-outness. You already have it. Also, chirality is a chemistry-specific term, so I think it is somewhat misleading to call it technical.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:29
2
2
Oops - just realised OP wants a word to describe the existence of a distinction between "normal" and "everted". I can't cancel the vote to close, but I can say there are so few real-world referents it would stagger me if there's even a specialised scientific term for it. Bear in mind particle physicists co-opted colour and spin for similar contexts, where the original meanings are unrelated to the scientific ones. But those scientific differences are [probably] real, whereas OP's one probably isn't.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:30
Oops - just realised OP wants a word to describe the existence of a distinction between "normal" and "everted". I can't cancel the vote to close, but I can say there are so few real-world referents it would stagger me if there's even a specialised scientific term for it. Bear in mind particle physicists co-opted colour and spin for similar contexts, where the original meanings are unrelated to the scientific ones. But those scientific differences are [probably] real, whereas OP's one probably isn't.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:30
1
1
@z7sg Ѫ: If "inside-outness" were ever used, I'm sure most people would take it to mean "eversion". I can't imagine a context where it would mean "the distinction between whether a thing is normal or everted". Would you seriously say "Can you check the inside-outness of my freshly-laundered socks", for example?
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:37
@z7sg Ѫ: If "inside-outness" were ever used, I'm sure most people would take it to mean "eversion". I can't imagine a context where it would mean "the distinction between whether a thing is normal or everted". Would you seriously say "Can you check the inside-outness of my freshly-laundered socks", for example?
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:37
1
1
@FumbleFingers It gets a few hundred hits on google books. I might say that. I wouldn't say "Can you check whether my socks are everted?" because it's unlikely someone will know what that word means, fine word though it is.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:41
@FumbleFingers It gets a few hundred hits on google books. I might say that. I wouldn't say "Can you check whether my socks are everted?" because it's unlikely someone will know what that word means, fine word though it is.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:41
3
3
@z7sg Ѫ: chirality is also used in math and physics with similar meaning.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:28
@z7sg Ѫ: chirality is also used in math and physics with similar meaning.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:28
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In topology, there is "Orientability", but I haven't studied it to know if it is the right term.
And there is the term "eversion", meaning "to turn inside-out", so the actual answer might be "evertedness", or just "everted".
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:32
Mark HurdMark Hurd
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We're definitely on the same page here! I considered evertedness, but I just thought evertivity might have useful echos of parity. On the other hand, there are probably more people who would accept that evertedness is "already" a word, even though if it's ever used it's probably in relation to "degree of eversion" rather than to distinguish "inside-out" from "inside-in".
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:47
2
Orientability is not the right term. But "orientation" can possibly fit; whether it does depends a bit on what the OP had in mind for the application.
– Willie Wong
Sep 8 '11 at 17:30
1
To add to @Willie's comment, orientability is (very loosely speaking) the thing you need for the words "inside" and "outside" make sense.
– Ross Churchley
Sep 10 '11 at 4:37
+1 I was going to suggest "eversion"; I think this is a reasonable thing to put into your blank: "they differ only in their eversion".
– Chinasaur
Sep 13 '11 at 4:27
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I don't think there's an existing word, but for potential neologisms I'd suggest either evertive orientation or evertivity.
Thanks to @Dan Brumleve for suggesting eversity, which I think is an even better coinage, in that it resonates nicely with parity and chirality
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:42
FumbleFingersFumbleFingers
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evertivity is the best I have heard so far. googling pretty much leads back to this question :) –
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:31
@Matthew Scouten: Now I think further on it, it seems to me that theoretical physicists ought to have a word for the concept. I know it's not exactly what we're talking about here, but the possibility of the universe being open/closed/flat/etc., or even being entirely contained inside a black hole within a different universe, could prompt them to create/find/use a word relevant to us here.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 21:08
I am pretty sure I have seen such a word before, but I can not remember it.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 8 '11 at 16:15
Came here from math.SE to coin "eversity".
– Dan Brumleve
Sep 9 '11 at 23:26
@Dan Brumleve: Way ahead of you, man! It's interesting to note that in the math.se page where I asked you guys for help, and in the one about turning shirts inside out that was flagged up to me there, the word eversion was actually used several times. But over here my two variants thereof have thus far collected the grand total of no votes whatsoever. But I'll tack your eversity in my answer if you don't mind - it resonates better with parity, which I think is a plus point.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 9 '11 at 23:40
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The word "containment" may suit your needs.
Example usages
- The containment of the point is outside the box.
- The containment of this side of the fence is inside.
answered Feb 17 '16 at 0:25
Thomas EdingThomas Eding
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Based on the example provided in the initial question, it sounds like when both objects are in disparate states of eversion they are not enantiomorphs even though they may share a chiral form otherwise (e.g., a pair of gloves with one inside-out). Depending on the characteristics of those objects, when they are in the same state of eversion they may or may not be enantiomorphs as they may or may not be chiral (e.g., a pair of gloves versus a pair of tube socks). If one says that two objects differ only in their states of eversion, is that intended to signify that everting the non-everted one would result in a pair of enantiomorphs or that it would result in an achiral pair--or is the intention to refrain from such specification? I feel like that is where a lack of clarity in the initial question may have yet to be addressed.
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In topology, there is "Orientability", but I haven't studied it to know if it is the right term.
And there is the term "eversion", meaning "to turn inside-out", so the actual answer might be "evertedness", or just "everted".
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:32
Mark HurdMark Hurd
401613
2
We're definitely on the same page here! I considered evertedness, but I just thought evertivity might have useful echos of parity. On the other hand, there are probably more people who would accept that evertedness is "already" a word, even though if it's ever used it's probably in relation to "degree of eversion" rather than to distinguish "inside-out" from "inside-in".
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:47
2
Orientability is not the right term. But "orientation" can possibly fit; whether it does depends a bit on what the OP had in mind for the application.
– Willie Wong
Sep 8 '11 at 17:30
1
To add to @Willie's comment, orientability is (very loosely speaking) the thing you need for the words "inside" and "outside" make sense.
– Ross Churchley
Sep 10 '11 at 4:37
+1 I was going to suggest "eversion"; I think this is a reasonable thing to put into your blank: "they differ only in their eversion".
– Chinasaur
Sep 13 '11 at 4:27
add a comment |
In topology, there is "Orientability", but I haven't studied it to know if it is the right term.
And there is the term "eversion", meaning "to turn inside-out", so the actual answer might be "evertedness", or just "everted".
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:32
Mark HurdMark Hurd
401613
2
We're definitely on the same page here! I considered evertedness, but I just thought evertivity might have useful echos of parity. On the other hand, there are probably more people who would accept that evertedness is "already" a word, even though if it's ever used it's probably in relation to "degree of eversion" rather than to distinguish "inside-out" from "inside-in".
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:47
2
Orientability is not the right term. But "orientation" can possibly fit; whether it does depends a bit on what the OP had in mind for the application.
– Willie Wong
Sep 8 '11 at 17:30
1
To add to @Willie's comment, orientability is (very loosely speaking) the thing you need for the words "inside" and "outside" make sense.
– Ross Churchley
Sep 10 '11 at 4:37
+1 I was going to suggest "eversion"; I think this is a reasonable thing to put into your blank: "they differ only in their eversion".
– Chinasaur
Sep 13 '11 at 4:27
add a comment |
In topology, there is "Orientability", but I haven't studied it to know if it is the right term.
And there is the term "eversion", meaning "to turn inside-out", so the actual answer might be "evertedness", or just "everted".
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:32
Mark HurdMark Hurd
401613
In topology, there is "Orientability", but I haven't studied it to know if it is the right term.
And there is the term "eversion", meaning "to turn inside-out", so the actual answer might be "evertedness", or just "everted".
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:32
Mark HurdMark Hurd
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edited Sep 7 '11 at 16:51
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:32
Mark HurdMark Hurd
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answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:32
Mark HurdMark Hurd
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answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:32
Mark HurdMark Hurd
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401613
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We're definitely on the same page here! I considered evertedness, but I just thought evertivity might have useful echos of parity. On the other hand, there are probably more people who would accept that evertedness is "already" a word, even though if it's ever used it's probably in relation to "degree of eversion" rather than to distinguish "inside-out" from "inside-in".
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:47
2
Orientability is not the right term. But "orientation" can possibly fit; whether it does depends a bit on what the OP had in mind for the application.
– Willie Wong
Sep 8 '11 at 17:30
1
To add to @Willie's comment, orientability is (very loosely speaking) the thing you need for the words "inside" and "outside" make sense.
– Ross Churchley
Sep 10 '11 at 4:37
+1 I was going to suggest "eversion"; I think this is a reasonable thing to put into your blank: "they differ only in their eversion".
– Chinasaur
Sep 13 '11 at 4:27
add a comment |
2
We're definitely on the same page here! I considered evertedness, but I just thought evertivity might have useful echos of parity. On the other hand, there are probably more people who would accept that evertedness is "already" a word, even though if it's ever used it's probably in relation to "degree of eversion" rather than to distinguish "inside-out" from "inside-in".
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:47
2
Orientability is not the right term. But "orientation" can possibly fit; whether it does depends a bit on what the OP had in mind for the application.
– Willie Wong
Sep 8 '11 at 17:30
1
To add to @Willie's comment, orientability is (very loosely speaking) the thing you need for the words "inside" and "outside" make sense.
– Ross Churchley
Sep 10 '11 at 4:37
+1 I was going to suggest "eversion"; I think this is a reasonable thing to put into your blank: "they differ only in their eversion".
– Chinasaur
Sep 13 '11 at 4:27
2
2
We're definitely on the same page here! I considered evertedness, but I just thought evertivity might have useful echos of parity. On the other hand, there are probably more people who would accept that evertedness is "already" a word, even though if it's ever used it's probably in relation to "degree of eversion" rather than to distinguish "inside-out" from "inside-in".
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:47
We're definitely on the same page here! I considered evertedness, but I just thought evertivity might have useful echos of parity. On the other hand, there are probably more people who would accept that evertedness is "already" a word, even though if it's ever used it's probably in relation to "degree of eversion" rather than to distinguish "inside-out" from "inside-in".
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:47
2
2
Orientability is not the right term. But "orientation" can possibly fit; whether it does depends a bit on what the OP had in mind for the application.
– Willie Wong
Sep 8 '11 at 17:30
Orientability is not the right term. But "orientation" can possibly fit; whether it does depends a bit on what the OP had in mind for the application.
– Willie Wong
Sep 8 '11 at 17:30
1
1
To add to @Willie's comment, orientability is (very loosely speaking) the thing you need for the words "inside" and "outside" make sense.
– Ross Churchley
Sep 10 '11 at 4:37
To add to @Willie's comment, orientability is (very loosely speaking) the thing you need for the words "inside" and "outside" make sense.
– Ross Churchley
Sep 10 '11 at 4:37
+1 I was going to suggest "eversion"; I think this is a reasonable thing to put into your blank: "they differ only in their eversion".
– Chinasaur
Sep 13 '11 at 4:27
+1 I was going to suggest "eversion"; I think this is a reasonable thing to put into your blank: "they differ only in their eversion".
– Chinasaur
Sep 13 '11 at 4:27
add a comment |
I don't think there's an existing word, but for potential neologisms I'd suggest either evertive orientation or evertivity.
Thanks to @Dan Brumleve for suggesting eversity, which I think is an even better coinage, in that it resonates nicely with parity and chirality
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:42
FumbleFingersFumbleFingers
120k33245431
evertivity is the best I have heard so far. googling pretty much leads back to this question :) –
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:31
@Matthew Scouten: Now I think further on it, it seems to me that theoretical physicists ought to have a word for the concept. I know it's not exactly what we're talking about here, but the possibility of the universe being open/closed/flat/etc., or even being entirely contained inside a black hole within a different universe, could prompt them to create/find/use a word relevant to us here.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 21:08
I am pretty sure I have seen such a word before, but I can not remember it.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 8 '11 at 16:15
Came here from math.SE to coin "eversity".
– Dan Brumleve
Sep 9 '11 at 23:26
@Dan Brumleve: Way ahead of you, man! It's interesting to note that in the math.se page where I asked you guys for help, and in the one about turning shirts inside out that was flagged up to me there, the word eversion was actually used several times. But over here my two variants thereof have thus far collected the grand total of no votes whatsoever. But I'll tack your eversity in my answer if you don't mind - it resonates better with parity, which I think is a plus point.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 9 '11 at 23:40
|
show 2 more comments
I don't think there's an existing word, but for potential neologisms I'd suggest either evertive orientation or evertivity.
Thanks to @Dan Brumleve for suggesting eversity, which I think is an even better coinage, in that it resonates nicely with parity and chirality
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:42
FumbleFingersFumbleFingers
120k33245431
evertivity is the best I have heard so far. googling pretty much leads back to this question :) –
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:31
@Matthew Scouten: Now I think further on it, it seems to me that theoretical physicists ought to have a word for the concept. I know it's not exactly what we're talking about here, but the possibility of the universe being open/closed/flat/etc., or even being entirely contained inside a black hole within a different universe, could prompt them to create/find/use a word relevant to us here.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 21:08
I am pretty sure I have seen such a word before, but I can not remember it.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 8 '11 at 16:15
Came here from math.SE to coin "eversity".
– Dan Brumleve
Sep 9 '11 at 23:26
@Dan Brumleve: Way ahead of you, man! It's interesting to note that in the math.se page where I asked you guys for help, and in the one about turning shirts inside out that was flagged up to me there, the word eversion was actually used several times. But over here my two variants thereof have thus far collected the grand total of no votes whatsoever. But I'll tack your eversity in my answer if you don't mind - it resonates better with parity, which I think is a plus point.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 9 '11 at 23:40
|
show 2 more comments
I don't think there's an existing word, but for potential neologisms I'd suggest either evertive orientation or evertivity.
Thanks to @Dan Brumleve for suggesting eversity, which I think is an even better coinage, in that it resonates nicely with parity and chirality
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:42
FumbleFingersFumbleFingers
120k33245431
I don't think there's an existing word, but for potential neologisms I'd suggest either evertive orientation or evertivity.
Thanks to @Dan Brumleve for suggesting eversity, which I think is an even better coinage, in that it resonates nicely with parity and chirality
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:42
FumbleFingersFumbleFingers
120k33245431
edited Sep 9 '11 at 23:43
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:42
FumbleFingersFumbleFingers
120k33245431
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:42
FumbleFingersFumbleFingers
120k33245431
answered Sep 7 '11 at 16:42
FumbleFingersFumbleFingers
120k33245431
120k33245431
evertivity is the best I have heard so far. googling pretty much leads back to this question :) –
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:31
@Matthew Scouten: Now I think further on it, it seems to me that theoretical physicists ought to have a word for the concept. I know it's not exactly what we're talking about here, but the possibility of the universe being open/closed/flat/etc., or even being entirely contained inside a black hole within a different universe, could prompt them to create/find/use a word relevant to us here.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 21:08
I am pretty sure I have seen such a word before, but I can not remember it.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 8 '11 at 16:15
Came here from math.SE to coin "eversity".
– Dan Brumleve
Sep 9 '11 at 23:26
@Dan Brumleve: Way ahead of you, man! It's interesting to note that in the math.se page where I asked you guys for help, and in the one about turning shirts inside out that was flagged up to me there, the word eversion was actually used several times. But over here my two variants thereof have thus far collected the grand total of no votes whatsoever. But I'll tack your eversity in my answer if you don't mind - it resonates better with parity, which I think is a plus point.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 9 '11 at 23:40
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evertivity is the best I have heard so far. googling pretty much leads back to this question :) –
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:31
@Matthew Scouten: Now I think further on it, it seems to me that theoretical physicists ought to have a word for the concept. I know it's not exactly what we're talking about here, but the possibility of the universe being open/closed/flat/etc., or even being entirely contained inside a black hole within a different universe, could prompt them to create/find/use a word relevant to us here.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 21:08
I am pretty sure I have seen such a word before, but I can not remember it.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 8 '11 at 16:15
Came here from math.SE to coin "eversity".
– Dan Brumleve
Sep 9 '11 at 23:26
@Dan Brumleve: Way ahead of you, man! It's interesting to note that in the math.se page where I asked you guys for help, and in the one about turning shirts inside out that was flagged up to me there, the word eversion was actually used several times. But over here my two variants thereof have thus far collected the grand total of no votes whatsoever. But I'll tack your eversity in my answer if you don't mind - it resonates better with parity, which I think is a plus point.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 9 '11 at 23:40
evertivity is the best I have heard so far. googling pretty much leads back to this question :) –
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:31
evertivity is the best I have heard so far. googling pretty much leads back to this question :) –
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:31
@Matthew Scouten: Now I think further on it, it seems to me that theoretical physicists ought to have a word for the concept. I know it's not exactly what we're talking about here, but the possibility of the universe being open/closed/flat/etc., or even being entirely contained inside a black hole within a different universe, could prompt them to create/find/use a word relevant to us here.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 21:08
@Matthew Scouten: Now I think further on it, it seems to me that theoretical physicists ought to have a word for the concept. I know it's not exactly what we're talking about here, but the possibility of the universe being open/closed/flat/etc., or even being entirely contained inside a black hole within a different universe, could prompt them to create/find/use a word relevant to us here.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 21:08
I am pretty sure I have seen such a word before, but I can not remember it.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 8 '11 at 16:15
I am pretty sure I have seen such a word before, but I can not remember it.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 8 '11 at 16:15
Came here from math.SE to coin "eversity".
– Dan Brumleve
Sep 9 '11 at 23:26
Came here from math.SE to coin "eversity".
– Dan Brumleve
Sep 9 '11 at 23:26
@Dan Brumleve: Way ahead of you, man! It's interesting to note that in the math.se page where I asked you guys for help, and in the one about turning shirts inside out that was flagged up to me there, the word eversion was actually used several times. But over here my two variants thereof have thus far collected the grand total of no votes whatsoever. But I'll tack your eversity in my answer if you don't mind - it resonates better with parity, which I think is a plus point.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 9 '11 at 23:40
@Dan Brumleve: Way ahead of you, man! It's interesting to note that in the math.se page where I asked you guys for help, and in the one about turning shirts inside out that was flagged up to me there, the word eversion was actually used several times. But over here my two variants thereof have thus far collected the grand total of no votes whatsoever. But I'll tack your eversity in my answer if you don't mind - it resonates better with parity, which I think is a plus point.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 9 '11 at 23:40
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The word "containment" may suit your needs.
Example usages
- The containment of the point is outside the box.
- The containment of this side of the fence is inside.
answered Feb 17 '16 at 0:25
Thomas EdingThomas Eding
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The word "containment" may suit your needs.
Example usages
- The containment of the point is outside the box.
- The containment of this side of the fence is inside.
answered Feb 17 '16 at 0:25
Thomas EdingThomas Eding
1293
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The word "containment" may suit your needs.
Example usages
- The containment of the point is outside the box.
- The containment of this side of the fence is inside.
answered Feb 17 '16 at 0:25
Thomas EdingThomas Eding
1293
The word "containment" may suit your needs.
Example usages
- The containment of the point is outside the box.
- The containment of this side of the fence is inside.
answered Feb 17 '16 at 0:25
Thomas EdingThomas Eding
1293
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answered Feb 17 '16 at 0:25
Thomas EdingThomas Eding
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answered Feb 17 '16 at 0:25
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Based on the example provided in the initial question, it sounds like when both objects are in disparate states of eversion they are not enantiomorphs even though they may share a chiral form otherwise (e.g., a pair of gloves with one inside-out). Depending on the characteristics of those objects, when they are in the same state of eversion they may or may not be enantiomorphs as they may or may not be chiral (e.g., a pair of gloves versus a pair of tube socks). If one says that two objects differ only in their states of eversion, is that intended to signify that everting the non-everted one would result in a pair of enantiomorphs or that it would result in an achiral pair--or is the intention to refrain from such specification? I feel like that is where a lack of clarity in the initial question may have yet to be addressed.
answered Apr 2 at 15:07
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Based on the example provided in the initial question, it sounds like when both objects are in disparate states of eversion they are not enantiomorphs even though they may share a chiral form otherwise (e.g., a pair of gloves with one inside-out). Depending on the characteristics of those objects, when they are in the same state of eversion they may or may not be enantiomorphs as they may or may not be chiral (e.g., a pair of gloves versus a pair of tube socks). If one says that two objects differ only in their states of eversion, is that intended to signify that everting the non-everted one would result in a pair of enantiomorphs or that it would result in an achiral pair--or is the intention to refrain from such specification? I feel like that is where a lack of clarity in the initial question may have yet to be addressed.
answered Apr 2 at 15:07
bblohowiakbblohowiak
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Based on the example provided in the initial question, it sounds like when both objects are in disparate states of eversion they are not enantiomorphs even though they may share a chiral form otherwise (e.g., a pair of gloves with one inside-out). Depending on the characteristics of those objects, when they are in the same state of eversion they may or may not be enantiomorphs as they may or may not be chiral (e.g., a pair of gloves versus a pair of tube socks). If one says that two objects differ only in their states of eversion, is that intended to signify that everting the non-everted one would result in a pair of enantiomorphs or that it would result in an achiral pair--or is the intention to refrain from such specification? I feel like that is where a lack of clarity in the initial question may have yet to be addressed.
answered Apr 2 at 15:07
bblohowiakbblohowiak
212
Based on the example provided in the initial question, it sounds like when both objects are in disparate states of eversion they are not enantiomorphs even though they may share a chiral form otherwise (e.g., a pair of gloves with one inside-out). Depending on the characteristics of those objects, when they are in the same state of eversion they may or may not be enantiomorphs as they may or may not be chiral (e.g., a pair of gloves versus a pair of tube socks). If one says that two objects differ only in their states of eversion, is that intended to signify that everting the non-everted one would result in a pair of enantiomorphs or that it would result in an achiral pair--or is the intention to refrain from such specification? I feel like that is where a lack of clarity in the initial question may have yet to be addressed.
answered Apr 2 at 15:07
bblohowiakbblohowiak
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answered Apr 2 at 15:07
bblohowiakbblohowiak
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answered Apr 2 at 15:07
bblohowiakbblohowiak
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answered Apr 2 at 15:07
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The term is inside-outness. You already have it. Also, chirality is a chemistry-specific term, so I think it is somewhat misleading to call it technical.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:29
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Oops - just realised OP wants a word to describe the existence of a distinction between "normal" and "everted". I can't cancel the vote to close, but I can say there are so few real-world referents it would stagger me if there's even a specialised scientific term for it. Bear in mind particle physicists co-opted colour and spin for similar contexts, where the original meanings are unrelated to the scientific ones. But those scientific differences are [probably] real, whereas OP's one probably isn't.
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:30
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@z7sg Ѫ: If "inside-outness" were ever used, I'm sure most people would take it to mean "eversion". I can't imagine a context where it would mean "the distinction between whether a thing is normal or everted". Would you seriously say "Can you check the inside-outness of my freshly-laundered socks", for example?
– FumbleFingers
Sep 7 '11 at 16:37
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@FumbleFingers It gets a few hundred hits on google books. I might say that. I wouldn't say "Can you check whether my socks are everted?" because it's unlikely someone will know what that word means, fine word though it is.
– z7sg Ѫ
Sep 7 '11 at 16:41
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@z7sg Ѫ: chirality is also used in math and physics with similar meaning.
– Matthew Scouten
Sep 7 '11 at 20:28